Monday, May 7, 2007

English vs. Chinese

The constant music-listening is taking a heavy toll on me. I develop a sudden interest in ALL sorts of music. And they seem to get stuck in my mind now. They get stuck in my mind all the time. For example, when I first wake up in the morning, "I Can't Take It" by Lola is the first thing that comes to mind. When I have my breakfast, Katharine McPhee's "Over It" hits me. During lunch, it's always "Love Me Or Hate Me" by Lady Sovereign. I hear music in my mind all the time, and that eventually leads me to humming (and singing when nobody's around!)

Music is addictive. Now having an eclectic taste in music, I enjoy listening to what a particular song has to tell about life. Like a mystery novel, the stories behind the songs are revealed with every play. Never will you find anything more enjoyable than listening to Nelly Furtado sing about being promiscuous, Avril Lavigne wanting to be someone's girlfriend, Chris Daughtry going home to the place he belongs, Vanessa Hudgens asking her ex to come back to her etc. Those songs are catchier than chicken pox and measles combined, believe me.

There is something about English songs that attracts people to listen to them- QUALITY. There is certainly NO WAY Chinese songs can achieve the high quality that English songs possess. I was watching the Project Superstar finale last Saturday when this particular finalist sang Kelly Clarkson's "A Moment Like This", and gosh, she was such a disgrace to Kelly Clarkson. She is an amateur while Kelly is THE American Idol. With the limited vocal range she has, she still made the attempt to reach wine-glass shattering notes in the song, but totally ruined it. Lucky for her she lost the competition to a guy who couldn't read or write in Chinese and had to rely on pinyin to sing instead. No offence, Project Superstar fans, I seriously think the judges were deaf to put her in the finals. Malaysia must be deaf too for voting for her! I am not judging the Chinese entertainment industry by her alone. In fact, all the contestants just couldn't sing. And the 5 judges commented their singing saying they were "good". If those were the standards the judges look for in a singer, I dare to say Chinese singers are way behind the English ones.

Yes, you can say I'm biased. Come on, just listen to English songs and you'll find that they've got groove and a rich soul running through them. Why settle for TRASHY imitation goons when you can have the real deal?

106 comments:

NaeS said...

let music take you on a journey~ no music=no life

greenxz said...

im don totally agree wit what u said lo. sorry if u say this is another negative comment..not ALL chinese singers are bad ya know...and thats just a competition...whatevr...i alsokinda forgot what i wanna say edi..cya

greenxz said...

im don totally agree wit what u said lo. sorry if u say this is another negative comment..not ALL chinese singers are bad ya know...and thats just a competition...whatevr...i alsokinda forgot what i wanna say edi..cya

Winnie C said...

I appreciate feedbacks...keep them coming in! Anyways that's just my opinion...that's what blogging is for, right?

Anonymous said...

U might as well edit yr post from " I develop a sudden interest in ALL sorts of music. " to "ONLY ENGLISH MUSIC".wrong usage of the word "all".U r very wrong saying Chinese music is no way can be compared to English music.I hafta reread yr post few times before i can confirm this:u judge chinese music based on project superstar MALAYSIA version alone.y dont u go watch s'porean superstar project,their contestant are way better.Even some of their vocal capabilities are on par with mariah carey i dare to admit.Chinese music also has a very meaningful lyrics tat sometimes can touch people's heart,not only english, and u describe chinese music as trashy just because u dont go and take time to listen,or u dont understand chinese?"Banana"??Chinese singers are way behind english singers? u make me laugh my ass out. should i say yr statement is racist? or u r one of those english ed who doesnt appreciate chinese music and look down on mandarin-speaking chinese people?seems to me tat u r.The so-called quality musics u listed on yr website,to u they are very nice, but not all people have the same taste as u.Some may think they are crappy.The old folks would definitely say tat and u may say they are out-dated. The sample concept applied here. Just tat u dont listen to chinese music much, u already conclude tat chinese music is a trash."u can say im biased" phrase. Yes, u r very bias, and racist. wat bout marilyn manson? he's an english singer, and look at his obscene lyrics?if i compare him with chinese singer, can i say tat english singers are nothign but piece of shit? think before u say my friend.I suggest u go listen to yr so-called quality english music and leave chinese music alone.yr comment on chinese entertainment is NOT APPRECIATED.An immature opinions.

Anonymous said...

Add on: "TRASHY imitation goons when you can have the real deal"?? u mean all english songs are originally composed and do not copy others.Do u want me to find and list out all the english songs that are copied from from other languages songs, especially chinese songs?

Jared said...

I wish to add my comments on what anonymous have said. First of all, by "ALL sorts of music", I am sure Winnie is referring to all sorts of GENRES- alternative, R&B, soundtracks etc. I watched both versions of Project Superstar before and I dare to say that Winnie is right. Just listen to the contestatnts sing- pitching problems, limited range of vocals etc. The competition only reflects on the low standards of the country. Try watching American Idol and see for yourself how the contestants sing. And compare them with the ones in Project Superstar. It'll be like heaven ad earth. It is harsh for you to say that Winnie is a "banana" by what she wrote. Obscene lyrics are nothing new to English music, maybe it is YOU who are close-minded and living in the 19th century or something to comment about that. My parents who are in their 40s and 50s still enjoy the modern English songs that I listen to, and I enjoy listening to the English classics they listen to. Why do some Chinese singers sing some parts of a certain song in English but can't even get the pronunciation right? I have heard a Chinese singer pronounced "birthday" as
'burstday" in one of his songs. And I laughed out loud. I am sure that is what Winnie meant by "trashy imitations". I think anonymous is too Chinese-ed. Think for yourself and stop accusing Winnie of being racist. And I appreciate her comments. Way to go, Winnie!

Anonymous said...

well,im sorry to say my english dictionary defines all as whole.Unless the writer's definition of all is only "all genre" in ENGLISH MUSIC.Im supporting neither English and Chinese.Im just very disagree with the writer's way of condemning chinese music.Both have their own uniqueness,originality,and even styles.U just cant compared both.And again,jared, u judge chinese music entertainment based on project superstar alone.Cant u all leave that competition alone?Try see it from wider perspective.Pulezz.I cant say im not chinese ed.Im just grateful that im attending a national school while at the same time maintain my chinese culture at da same time.I cant read and write in chinese either.But just look at the writer's comment,it's just too biased. And im voicing out my disagreement.U have yr points,i have mind.And about obscene lyrics songs, i have plentiful in my playlist. I dont mind listening to them. What im talking now is lyrics that causes controversial and peace-disturbance. I dont wish to say them out here.Well, mayb because of my "chinese-ed" part tells me that Winnie is judging chinese musics by only watching cheap singing competition.There are many other singing competitions in other languages also produces crappy singer.Eg, Mawi.But chinese music industry taking all da damages is simply unacceptable.Declaring herself as music lover, she should see music from wider angles.Chinese music is way behind english?? That's wrong. Look at Wang Lee Hom, he's a chinese singer, he sings mandarin songs.And try google up and see how many fan clubs opened by western countries,even US and Canada.And about accusing her as racist,there are racism elements in her post.And thank you for your reminder jared, i have done a lot of thinking before posting this comments, and my brain is working perfectly well.

Anonymous said...

add on: trashy imitation just because chinese song writers add in english words and the singer can pronounce it properly?wow, I never knew the word imitation has other meaning. or issit my oxford advanced learner dictionary is a pirated version.From my limited knowledge in english language,(as commented by jared of me being too chinese-ed),imitation is defined a copy that is represented as the original. If using english words is considered trashy imitation.wow, i have no comment. Y dont u consult yr english teachers whether usage of english words in chinese songs is considered imitating??? ^^

Anonymous said...

correction: the singer cant*

Jared said...

I suggest you listen to Indian songs then, since you're having so much trouble with English songs. And I support Winnie's comments on talentless singers as in new bands like Fahrenheit, 183 Club etc. And why is the subject on LeeHom Wang now? And I can see that you are always referring to the EXACT meanings of certain words that Winnie typed in her post. This is seriously not an English essay-writing competition or something. You are damn right you have a limited knowledge in English. Peace-disturbance? You are too stupid to conclude that. Are you deaf or don't you understand English? Many songs are contributing to world peace. I have not come across ANY songs that suggest us to have a war or something. I am a music lover too and I know what Winnie meant, she was not condemning Chinese music. Haven't you been reading the daily newspapers? Marina Mahathir once wrote about the true meaning of blogging. Go search that up and read it.

P3 said...

It certainly amazes me how hard the anonymous tried to sound so good in using English. Impressing anyone here, kiddo? First of all, I'm not at all intending to say who's right and who's wrong. Nothing is definite in this world. The question of right and wrong is therefore not my right to discuss. Both anonymous(1) and Winnie has their own points. What ticks me off and what I want to express is, for God's sake, DON'T YOU EVER TRY TO FLAUNT YOUR DAMN BASTARD ENGLISH HERE. It's clearly not up to the average level. Or even Winnie's.

"wow, I never knew the word imitation has other meaning. or issit my oxford advanced learner dictionary is a pirated version."

DON'T ever try to fucking show your damn dictionary off here as though as you are the only bitch who has it in the world. The way you were saying that implies that by having the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary it gives you the right to exhibit the pathetic attempt to become the English Master. Google and see if there's any way else to improve your English. What a disgrace.

"Y dont u consult yr english teachers whether usage of english words in chinese songs is considered imitating"

Who are you to fucking tell someone to do that? Have you lived long enough in this world to understand the English usage history which dates back to hundreds of years?

Perk up YOUR English before parading your dictionary and your really pathetic attempt to sound oh-so-good in English.

So long!

Anonymous said...

i never know expressing my opinions and point of views are wrong here. And im not showing off my english here either, not with my secondary school level of english.my apology if anyone is offended.i will try to google up and see if i can improve my english.Thanks for the advice.

Anonymous said...

i didnt mean to arouse such commotion here. im the person who posted the first anonymous comment. Didnt know there's another anonymous here.Well,dont want to say more.Just wanna say im sorry and to the other anonymous(s),please respect the others.

Jan said...

aiyoyo,that's just Winnie's opinion.Why la go say something so bad?Respek la sikit.Nak kasi tau lu mia comments, tulis la ngan sopan sikit.Gua kesian sama Winnie.
Gua sokong sama naes, no music, no life. Yea!!!

purplexity said...

Wow.. such wonderful train of comments here! Hmm.. I agree totally with anonymous, MAWI is CERTAINLY a VERY CRAPPY SINGER!!!! Winnie, I personally feel that it's unfair to compare both English and Chinese music industry. Each of them has different demands from the listeners. Both focus on different aspects too. Judging by the stupid competition alone and conclude the quality of the Chinese music industry as a whole, I.. don't think it's fair either.

I listen to both. I like both. However, I wont judge your opinions by saying they're wrong or what.. You must have your own reasons and beliefs for saying so in your post. And I respect that =D

Hey, LEE HOM is a really really talented COMPOSER/SINGER/SONGWRITER/anything else! If we must compare, I believe that MANY of the western singers lose to him alone. =P

Anonymous supporter said...

TO p3 and jared,anonymous has his/her point.If the usage of words is wrong in an composition, it could affect the whole meaning.And i believe anonymous has no intention to show off his english.He/she is right about the word imitating.And he/she's just trying to prove he's right.Maybe his/her way of proving is abit exxagerating. But he/she is not wrong by asking to consult english teacher. None of us is perfect.Even one who studies english language can make a simple mistake in the language.Anonymous is humble enough to admit that he has limited knowledge in English language.Anonymous is also using LeeHom as a prove that not all chinese singers are way behind english singers. And anonymous is not condemning Winnie's blog.I think his comments are progressive. If everyone agrees with what the author said,wat's the use of the comment section?

sean said...

stupid anonymous! Must be one of those Kiasu Singaporeans again, always stirring up problems... For your info~ this is a blog~ hello~ it's a place where people express their feelings... none of your business to condemn right???

oh ya... for your info, chinese music just sucks~ coz it's either a love song or a sad song... or a freaking sober crying her bitch ass off song!

Winnie C said...

LeeHom is good. That I agree. I am not saying ALL Chinese singers are bad, I didn't type it that way. Wow didn't thought that this one post will cause all the kerfuffle here. The whole post is just what I think. Jared is right- by "ALL sorts" I mean "all genres". I am not looking down on Chinese-speaking people (what has that got to do with this anyway, anonymous?) so please, I'm not racist. I'm a Chinese myself so why must I be a racist and go against my own race? Anyway, my point is, my very own preferance goes to English songs rather than Chinese ones. This CANNOT prove that I am a racist or that I condemn the Chinese singers and songs. "Immature opinions"? If my opinions are immatured I wouldn't even post them here. A blog is a medium where I can post my views and therefore you cannot say that my opinions are immatured. "Trashy imitation" to me means Chinese singers trying to follow what English ones are doing- take rap for example.

Anonymous said...

To sean, this is a comment section for a blog too. Im only expressing my point of view as well, not causing problems.And do i see problems here? Nope, im seeing an argument here. and im definitely not from s'pore.

And i believe sean is only saying that because i dont like me, not because u have da same opinions as Winnie. And to Winnie,im not condemning yr blog. Can u find any part of my comments that show signs that im condemning yr blog?

sean said...

Get a life dude... ur such a whiny ass... they're more to life than chinese music okay? unless you're tone deaf... from my point of view, as a commenter like you said, u have a sad life man~ coz u think chinese songs are meaningful... yea... it's meaningful hell yea... when you're freaking sober and sad and everything...when ur gf ditched you coz ur such an ass... yea... chinese songs are definitely nice for u to DROWN UR SORROW AND PAIN~ let me repeat : CHINESE SONGS ARE FULL OFF HEARTBREAKING CRAPPY LYRICS! GET A LIFE DUDE~ THERE'S MORE IN LIFE THAN SAD SONGS

p3 said...

anonymous supporter, are you just another version of anonymous, created by the same person?

"TO p3 and jared,anonymous has his/her point"

Did I say 'anonymous your point is totally unacceptable and wrong'?
Read properly next time, okay? =D

"He/she is right about the word imitating."

who the fuck are you? teacher? oh i'm so impressed that a 'teacher' has finally verified this.

"And he/she's just trying to prove he's right."

Damn it. WHO is he to try to prove that he's right? NO one can determine who is right or wrong. Where is the guideline of rights and wrongs in this world? Or.. there is? Anonymous can determine it? Oh what a God!

"Maybe his/her way of proving is abit exxagerating"

'Maybe'? Ever heard of 'think twice' this phrase? Anonymous I suggest you print a draft of your comment out and read it to see if anything's wrong before you make any unfounded comments.

"And anonymous is not condemning Winnie's blog"

and after immaculate monitoring of the words, I don't think in the first place, there was anyone who accused Anonymous of condemning Winnie's blog. Or is there? I'll stand corrected.

"I think his comments are progressive"

that's your problem.

"If everyone agrees with what the author said,wat's the use of the comment section?"

Winnie or anyone else DIDN'T state that EVERYONE commenting MUST see eye to eye with Winnie herself.

Anonymous said...

0o yeah, there's more to life than chinese music.And i ardy have a life now. Thx. And, by saying chinese lyrics are meaningful, u ardy jump to a conclusion that i have a sad life? so wat u r trying to say that only sad ppl listen to chinese music? And r u trying to say that chinese songs are all sad songs?

anonymous supporter said...

To p3: I didnt say u all are against anonymous's points of view. Im just saying that anonymous has his/her points.Why do u hafta make a fuss over it. About the word imitating, u dont need a teacher to define it. Just a small kid what is imitating and the kid will know tell u too.What's wrong?So, only teacher is right and the others are wrong issit? And of course no one is right or wrong, anonymous is trying to support his opinions. P3,what's yr problem anyway?Anonymous is making comments. Why do u have to come and make noise? And it seems to me that u r against anonymous the person rather than his/her points. And im totally agree with anonymous.

Anonymous said...

just admit the usage of word imitating is wrong. or u have ego size of sun that it's too embarassing for u to admit that u r wrong.U have problem with my english??????it's perfect.muahahaha.

LKF said...

wahahahhahha what losers....fighting over the usage of english when all of you including P3 especially has grammatic errors.....no body speaks perfect english or very few in fact....those who can do not even bother to talk because talkin to ppl like you is a waste of time(everybody who wrote here) i myself, do not use perfect english and thus do not have the right to tell any of you off...but i can tell u that you use imperfect english! SO STOP FIGHTING OVER THIS TOPIC and GET A LIFE you losers....and anoymous pls read up on your grammar and retake ur english paper exam...its a disgrace for someone like you to tell other ppl off when you are imperfect ur self... toodels

p3 said...

"Why do u hafta make a fuss over it."

Why do you care? I don't see it as a fuss.

"About the word imitating, u dont need a teacher to define it."

I said 'verify'. not 'define'. those are two entirely different words and carry different meanings.

"Just a small kid what is imitating and the kid will know tell u too."

what the fuck you are trying to say here? Damn it. This blog is entirely for those who UNDERSTANDS English. And know how to use it appropriately. The rest, fuck off.

"P3,what's yr problem anyway?Anonymous is making comments. Why do u have to come and make noise? "

Why not? Why can't I? Who are hell are you to demand explanation from me?

"And it seems to me that u r against anonymous the person rather than his/her points."

"It seems"? You mean you are actually all the while jumping to conclusions?

"And im totally agree with anonymous."

see, that's the problem. You can't even construct a decent sentence. My Year 6 brother can do much better. Go bury your face somewhere.

to lkf :
Goodness. My comments have grammatical errors? Ooh.. that's some news. Mine isn't perfect but at least I'm not trying to flaunt my English around. What's worse, even a dictionary as well.

It's your choice to use the word 'fighting'. Your term. Doesn't mean that everyone else will agree with you. Get a life? What a bitch. We don't need a bitch to tell us that.

"wahahahhahha what losers.."

go to hell.

"those who can do not even bother to talk because talkin to ppl like you is a waste of time(everybody who wrote here)"

you wrote here too =D

Anonymous said...

TO P3, Y DONT U GO FUCK YRSELF NICELY SOMEWHERE ELSE? U DONT SEE IT AS A FUSS BUT I DO.IM POSTING MY COMMENTS HERE AND ALL U DO IS RESPONSE WITH COMMENTS THAT ANNOYS ME. IM ONLY VOICING OUT MY DISAGREEMENT ON WINNIE'S POST AND U ASK PPL TO FUCK OFF.DAMN CANT BELIEVE IM WASTING MY TIME HERE ENTERTAINING A FUCKING RETARD WHO HAS NOTHING TO DO BUT FUCK PPL OFF. U HAVE ASSHOLE OF YRSELF RITE?SCREW IT THEN. DAMN.

p3 said...

Mr Anonymous, I believe you've lost. There's no point you spin around aimlessly. Go get your ass fucked instead. Either you go make yourself disappear or you'll be restricted here. I can bet. And if this really goes up to that point, your dignity is like... the size of an ant's brain. May God bless you.

Anonymous said...

self-declared victory??muahaha.my dignity the size of an ant's brain. all i can do is laughing.oh no, i will not get my ass fucked, even if tht's the last resort for me to survive in this world.

Anonymous said...

if wanna restrict me in this blog, i might as well use the time remain to make my presence felt.yeap,at first i just wanna post a comment here and that's it. but now i change my mind.i'll stay here until something will happen to me.

Anonymous said...

if wanna restrict me in this blog, i might as well use the time remain to make my presence felt.yeap,at first i just wanna post a comment here and that's it. but now i change my mind.i'll stay here until something will happen to me.

p3 said...

Winnie just restrict this person. Poor that kid with lousy English that puts anyone off. And even double-commented. Such a disgrace to your blog. Only messes your blog up. Stubborn dirt which is not appreciated anywhere in your blog territory. No one else want his presence felt anyway.

LKF (forgot to turn on caps lock) said...

wohoooo.......looks like someone hates girls. When you jumped to the conclusion that i'm a guy. And yep i wrote here too. But i'm not supporting any of you. Furthermore, i'm talkin bout the ones who think they speak perfect english.....i don't.....therefore i speak......i said those who can spaek PERFECT ENGLISH won't bother to talk with any of you. So whats with the faul language.......losers and hell arent faul language...its a definition of ppl and a place for bad boys....are you one??? if you arent then drop the subject about hell. Next you cant restrict anonymous because you don't have any of his contacts or ID or even his IP address....so i must be guessing you are an IT NOOB.. haizz
This is the future man....you can't block anyone from the internet...its impossible....if they could then porn,pirated VCD's and DVD's could have been curbed a long time ago....you must be livin under a rock....poor boy....i would like to tell you to read carefully before replyin to any questions. Ppl who talk without thinkin first are losers....and those who let other ppl agitate them are pitifull,sad,no life,oh well losers?,and finally PATHETIC.
with that i rest my case...
I DARE YOU TO DEBATE WITH ME
a word of caution though....your english would rise to a level unknown to you before after your debate with me cos you are replyin to a national state debator! it might be good fer you....you poor boy..oh yeah..anonymous...would you like some private lessons on your english.....u seem like a person who isn't COCKY or Proud unlike some people....so i prefer students who have these characteristics...its much easier to teach! AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE NO CURSE WORDS IN THIS COMMENT AND I URGE YOU TO DO THE SAME
cursing isnt cool....it just shows how well you are in society and a fact for all ppl here...those who curse ARE LOW LIFE'S!!!!!

LKF "CORRECTION" said...

"When you jumped to the conclusion that i'm a guy."

correction GUY CHANGE TO GIRL!!
As i said before no one is perfect!!!

Anonymous said...

Wanna restrict me? I would love to see it happen. Why dont u go and help Winnie and restrict me, since u are desperate so much to become kpc. So wat if my english is lousy? At least it's better than someone who thinks his/her English is very good.

sam said...

I BELIEF ANYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE THEIR PRESENCE FELT
ITS A RIGHT OF A HUMAN BEING
AND THOSE WHO DO NOT RESPECT THAT ARE WORSE THRASH

quoted frm NARUTo
pls visit
www.narutofan.com
it teaches morality to thrashes like som ppl who are mainlly P3
no hard feelings yeah.
and Anonymous
you need help in your english
thats all
if you wan help pls visit
http://myrandts.blogspot.com/
its good for your english

sean said...

and the vanity award goes to anonymous and his supporter! congratz! you get own very one punch in the balls!

sean said...

anonymous dude! u really need a life! i've been away for just one night and u've commented so much? damn u really need to go out cuz the world is so much a better place... or maybe ur ass is glued to some potty and all u do is shit and online at home

Winnie C said...

Disclaimer: Don't read if you cannot handle criticism and please, this is not an essay-writing competition so ditch your Oxfored Advanced Learner's Dictionary and use your BRAIN instead!

OK- let me for once point out my views again. Everything about Chinese songs just screams 'Safe!'. They do not really test the vocal capabilities of the singers and the melodies are somewhat predictable and formulaic. The songs just taper off mildly and become slightly repetitive with the usage of some melodic chords. Every single track is pretty much the same: the rhymes and rhythms are simple, mellow and straightforward. The songs are oh-so-boring that I'd be inspired to pull out a yoga mat and assume the Lotus position. They are most suitable for those who suffered a heartbreak (or are still suffering!) that can be likened to getting hit by a car. Yes- the songs are all about love and nothing else. This actually gets me thinking that the Chinese are so DESPERATE to discover love. No partner, can die?

Oh gosh anonymous you say your English is perfect? My 10-year-old sister's is even better. Who are you to say that my usage of the word "imitation" is wrong? And LKF (whoever you are) who are YOU to say that people who uses foul language are bad? I guess YOU'RE THE ONE WHO IS THE LOSER and not P3. National state debator? Does that make you a qualified teacher? No. So why go around boasting that you're a national debator and even attempting to teach anonymous (I do agree that he/she needs some teaching, though)?

"AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE NO CURSE WORDS IN THIS COMMENT AND I URGE YOU TO DO THE SAME
cursing isnt cool....it just shows how well you are in society and a fact for all ppl here...those who curse ARE LOW LIFE'S!!!!!"
You must be living under a rock yourself, my friend, coz' foul language is just part of life today. It certainly does not reflect the characteristics of a person. Maybe you're the one with all the problem now. With the good command of English that P3 has he/she can definitely use it freely and I don't see anything wrong there.

Erm, Naruto? Get a life- Naruto?Ughh. Another one about to boast...

What have all those got to do with my post anyway?

Comment on my post and not anything else ok?

p3 said...

when i say bitch i don't necessarily mean a female. If you are a guy, you are a bitch enough to be a bitchy girl.

It's SPEAK. Not SPAEK.

A national debater who can't even spell the word 'FOUL' correctly? That's something nice...

So what if you are a debater? What a national joke. Don't flaunt your English here. Clearly I can do better. Don't cry baby. okay? Go see your mama and wipe the tears away.

Oh can't restrict? Well in blogger , one CAN restrict the commentors. You don't use blogger? Too bad. Don't play Einstein here.

So who writes without thinking? Goodness I JUST LOOOOOOVE these idiots here. They make the world a more beautiful place.

and to sam.
"I BELIEF ANYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE THEIR PRESENCE FELT
ITS A RIGHT OF A HUMAN BEING"

he has the right I AGREE. but not in other's territory ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S NOT WANTED. So he'd better be ashamed.

thanks but none wants naruto here. but your attempt is greatly appreciated. i'll go check it out if i have the time =D

ThOmAs said...

HAHAHA! My goodness. You're so freaking funny anonymous.

I would really want to show you how loudly i'm laughing right now.

Seriously, this is just a pst, a blog post, a web log post to be precise. You make it sound like politics.

Man! You must be listening to Chinese songs all your life huh?

Don't take heart ok, anonymous? I know, sometimes it's hard to take harsh comments on your idols, but please, don't go around shouting and screaming ok? You make yourself sounded immature.

I mean, it's just a blog post, right?

Winnie C said...

I think all this should stop. This has turned into a personal fight instead of commenting. Music rocks, no music no life! Appreciate music and world peace!

Anonymous said...

i belief you all know who i am judging from the way i type.
LKF says:-
ohh well.....if a person were to block all commenters than everyone here will be blocked too...did you think of that or were you in a rush to write your point of view...
As stated earlier i never boasted... i even STATED THAT I'M NOT PERFECT...well typing errors can happen especially when a person is doing it in a dark room...cant turn on the lights cos my roommate is sleeping and just for your knowledge..i'm nocturnal..flaunt my english?? haha if i were to even do that, you wouldnt even be able to write back a comment that has anything new. Plus on a morality note..are you seriouslly sure that foul language is a way of life..goodness...i would never want my child to call me or even talk to me in foul language...if you seriouslly think it is...try saying it in every sentence you make..i see that your very own comment has no foul language..haizz walk your talk..if not it only means dirt....i'm sure your parents or any other society or parent or friends or any human being will be sad just to hear a foul language aimed at any of them...i have not even bad mouthed anyone here and yet i receive foul languages....haizzz......if you really think its a way of life then i'm afraid you wont get far in your future or your career..plus its a minus in interviews and you'll find it hard to secure a job...i not giving advice...i'm telling you cos its a fact...secondlly...i do agree without music there is no life...life is reflected by music and by listening to music we are able to understand a little more about sadness,solitude,love,compasion and peace.
Thirdlly i have out grown the point of cry baby....i save my tears for those i cherish and not for those i do not know or even care...but then again if you are a war victim then...oh well you may as well have my tears then.....
Fourthly, it is not true that one can block a commenter entirely. Its either you block all comments or you allow all comments. I do blog but I’m not going to let the likes of you read what I write. I think SAM’s URL to http://myrandts.blogspot.com/ is a good place to start brushing up on your English. It takes a person of great knowledge of both English and Fact and maturity to understand and comprehend their substance.
Finally, I would like to RESTATE and RECONFIRM my stand that I absolutely do not support anyone here or what they wrote. I’m just correcting their mistakes. And YES I do not have the right to do so but neither have you the right to accept it. Its more of a “take it or leave it” kind of gesture. And for those who seem to misinterpret this, it’s a GOOD gesture that has NO BAD THOUGHTS incorporated in it.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Sam was only suggesting an anime NARUTO. Why do people need to pull him into a comment attack? Try and be peaceful and NO, girls are not the only human sex that actually cries or talk about their feelings. We men also do that IN ANOTHER WAY. We express our self’s differently. For instance if I were to get piss off at P3 then I might write something even more uncivilized and worse then what he/she wrote. If p3 is a girl, well we are the future generation and as you READ & see the result, that’s a mild example of what I would do/write/comment. Bear in mind, that example is only a cut down version and very mild and tolerable….for me I do not know about anonymous…maybe he/she view this example as an attack. Oh well, can I conclude that if p3 did not write:-
“DON'T YOU EVER TRY TO FLAUNT YOUR DAMN BASTARD ENGLISH HERE. It's clearly not up to the average level. Or even Winnie's.”
Then maybe this would not have gone out of hand as Winnie stated. And for all those who succumbed to p3’s level of commenting well that’s your right, but if you take a minute/second and think about it…it really isn’t worth any of our dignity or morality or at least my own.
That’s all!
I’ll be checking to see if you have made an effort to block my comments….ciouzzz!

Jan said...

Well said LKF, I agree with you. In addition, I personally feel that this whole argument is leading us to no where. As Thomas said, this is just a blog post, why do we have to take it so seriously. Let us just ignore anonymous’ comments and let him do what he wants. Everyone knows who the immature one here is. Isn’t it obvious that anonymous is trying to create commotion here? Let us save our breath, our energy and our time to do something more fruitful in our real life than entertaining a retard (anonymous) shouting and acting as if he’s the most knowledgeable person in here. Learning is a never ending process. We learn until our times end. If we are wrong, accept it and make sure we don’t repeat the same mistake in future. Comments are made for expressing our opinions on the topics the author is writing. Everyone has the right to post their comments and argues the credibility of the post. But please do it with respect and politely. Don’t go around and make baseless accusation. Winnie is expressing her thoughts about Chinese and English music. She didn’t say she’s right about her opinions. It is unfair for her to be pointed out as racist. By the way, Winnie is blogging about music, why do you guys go and argue about English grammars? This is Winnie’s blog. Have respect on her. To anonymous, I can see that you are trying to defend your stand on Chinese and English music. But if you can’t argue your points properly, stop it. You are making a fool of yourself. Sam is trying to express his point of view here, don’t pull him into this verbal battle. It’s unfair for him.

I hope no one will verbally attack me for saying this: I too personally feel Chinese music cannot be compared to English music. Both are different in their own ways. It’s unfair too if we judge Chinese music quality based on competitions like Superstar thingy. I listen to both and I like both.

Winnie does not need to restrict anyone or make this blog private. Why bother? If you do so you will only make anonymous feel that he’s psychologically affects you. I believe this is his motive, to cause problems in this blog.

(ps. My English is not perfect too =P.)

sean said...

anonymous, can u do me a favour and just shut up and wank yourself to death? thanks~ i know you have no intentions of causing trouble but you have done much. please shut your pie hole and fuck off

p3 said...
This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
LKF said...

Maybe you all didn't see clearlly or misunderstood or just took for credit that Anonymous wrote here right after winnie wrote
"I think all this should stop. This has turned into a personal fight instead of commenting. Music rocks, no music no life! Appreciate music and world peace!"

Just to put it clearlly!!!
I just wanted to test and see if anyone reads thoroughly. Anyway just to make this clear.
I WROTE THAT. Not Anonymous!!
And i don't even belief that he/she commented here yet after winnie. So let us not jump to conclusions that "Anonymous" is about to START all over again.
Plus on a side note. Not everybody knows everything and neither do you. So pls stop calling people a retard or lets take for example:-

We the young generation are all retards in the eyes of our parents/grand parents.

And i just wanted to ask clearlly.
Towards whom are you aiming that quote?

"Pot calling the kettle black."

If you were talking about the URL its was only a suggestion and i think i stated earlier that i'm NOT PERFECT...jeez. I think i typed this 5x already.

Anyway, it was only a suggestion because it helped me a lot. So i thought those who are interested here would like too read it too especially if you are in FORM 6. Their level of English, i must admit, is much higher than me. Plus, they are matured. This can be seen in the way they express their feelings. FOUL language FREE!

And i still see that SEAN is still in to the foul language department.

To conclude it all, I just wanted all of you to know that i LKF wrote the comment before Jan. I'll paste it here to so you'll all not mistake it for another.

And NO i'm not "Anonymous ".
This can be proven in the maturity of my way of writing and his/her.

"ohh well.....if a person were to block all commenters than everyone here will be blocked too...did you think of that or were you in a rush to write your point of view...
As stated earlier i never boasted... i even STATED THAT I'M NOT PERFECT...well typing errors can happen especially when a person is doing it in a dark room...cant turn on the lights cos my roommate is sleeping and just for your knowledge..i'm nocturnal..flaunt my english?? haha if i were to even do that, you wouldnt even be able to write back a comment that has anything new. Plus on a morality note..are you seriouslly sure that foul language is a way of life..goodness...i would never want my child to call me or even talk to me in foul language...if you seriouslly think it is...try saying it in every sentence you make..i see that your very own comment has no foul language..haizz walk your talk..if not it only means dirt....i'm sure your parents or any other society or parent or friends or any human being will be sad just to hear a foul language aimed at any of them...i have not even bad mouthed anyone here and yet i receive foul languages....haizzz......if you really think its a way of life then i'm afraid you wont get far in your future or your career..plus its a minus in interviews and you'll find it hard to secure a job...i not giving advice...i'm telling you cos its a fact...secondlly...i do agree without music there is no life...life is reflected by music and by listening to music we are able to understand a little more about sadness,solitude,love,compasion and peace.
Thirdlly i have out grown the point of cry baby....i save my tears for those i cherish and not for those i do not know or even care...but then again if you are a war victim then...oh well you may as well have my tears then.....
Fourthly, it is not true that one can block a commenter entirely. Its either you block all comments or you allow all comments. I do blog but I’m not going to let the likes of you read what I write. I think SAM’s URL to http://myrandts.blogspot.com/ is a good place to start brushing up on your English. It takes a person of great knowledge of both English and Fact and maturity to understand and comprehend their substance.
Finally, I would like to RESTATE and RECONFIRM my stand that I absolutely do not support anyone here or what they wrote. I’m just correcting their mistakes. And YES I do not have the right to do so but neither have you the right to accept it. Its more of a “take it or leave it” kind of gesture. And for those who seem to misinterpret this, it’s a GOOD gesture that has NO BAD THOUGHTS incorporated in it.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Sam was only suggesting an anime NARUTO. Why do people need to pull him into a comment attack? Try and be peaceful and NO, girls are not the only human sex that actually cries or talk about their feelings. We men also do that IN ANOTHER WAY. We express our self’s differently. For instance if I were to get piss off at P3 then I might write something even more uncivilized and worse then what he/she wrote. If p3 is a girl, well we are the future generation and as you READ & see the result, that’s a mild example of what I would do/write/comment. Bear in mind, that example is only a cut down version and very mild and tolerable….for me I do not know about anonymous…maybe he/she view this example as an attack. Oh well, can I conclude that if p3 did not write:-
“DON'T YOU EVER TRY TO FLAUNT YOUR DAMN BASTARD ENGLISH HERE. It's clearly not up to the average level. Or even Winnie's.”
Then maybe this would not have gone out of hand as Winnie stated. And for all those who succumbed to p3’s level of commenting well that’s your right, but if you take a minute/second and think about it…it really isn’t worth any of our dignity or morality or at least my own.
That’s all!
I’ll be checking to see if you have made an effort to block my comments….ciouzzz! "

So lets all wait patientlly for what Anonymous has to say. AND LETS NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS.

p3 said...

don't simply use different names. stick to the first one you've used before. As a result of lkf's action, i apologise for my mistake in accusing Anonymous in my previous comment alone.

p3 said...

My previous comment has been deleted by the blog administrator to prevent any misunderstanding.

let me restructure my words :



An owner of a blog can determine who can comment, from anyone to only registered users to only members of the blog itself. Settled. Don't talk on this again.

I don't understand why even after Winnie stated that this should end, lkf is all about to start again. Hand itchy? Someone just can't get the message clear.

And who actually understands what lkf is trying to say? The words and ideas are all jumbled up. Never mind. No one here cares anyway.

________________________________


SAM wrote this :

"Anonymous you need help in your english
thats all if you wan help pls visit http://myrandts.blogspot.com/ its good for your english"

lkf addressed this to p3:

"I think SAM’s URL to http://myrandts.blogspot.com/ is a good place to start brushing up on YOUR English."

Just... read clear next time okay? I pity your comprehension level.

"It takes a person of great knowledge of both English and Fact and maturity to understand and comprehend their substance."

Pot calling the kettle black.

LKF (GOTTCHA) said...

Apology accepted.
Oh well…I didn’t say I was great at English.
And well done in your effort to correct me.
And was I about to start anything?
I thought I ended it when the accusations and bad mouthing stopped.
In fact, anonymous has not even replied.
And even if he/she does I don’t think its going to be hostile.

“Pot calling the kettle black.”

Well yes I would say that it reflects me and everybody here who aren’t holding masters in the English language. Yes that includes you too.

Other than that I don’t have anything else to say because ,well to put it in a nut shell, everything here is now fine and peacefull.

p3 said...

I wasn't apologising to you. I was apologising to Anonymous.

“Pot calling the kettle black.”

Well it certainly doesn't reflect ME. I always make sure I get facts right to avoid making unfounded remarks.

p3 said...

yeah everything is peaceful here now..

debatEr, not, debatOr! said...

LFK: I DARE YOU TO DEBATE WITH ME
a word of caution though....your english would rise to a level unknown to you before after your debate with me cos you are replyin to a national state debatOr!

WHAT? WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY???
"your english will RISE to a level unknown?"
APPARENTLY IT WILL! i bet my english will rise up to the heavens where fucking bitches live because i have no idea of WHAT SORT OF ENGLISH that you are using! clearly UNKNOWN!

and debatOr? anyone heard of what a debatOr is? you wanna challenge someone badly huh? come on, WE are all set! we might not be debatErs, but we certainly don't fear debatOrs! =D



LFK : "Other than that I don’t have anything else to say because ,well to put it in a nut shell, everything here is now fine and peacefull."

PEACEFULL? OH YEAH, full OF PEACE i suppose! hey bitch! who's the one who started everything all over again when winnie decided to end it???!!



LFK: "This can be proven in the maturity of my way of writing and his/her."

please CLARIFY the meaning of 'maturity' in that particular sentence. thank you.




and oh puh-leeezzz.. correct your grammar! I am absolutely CLEAR with your statement which claims that your english is *not perfect*.
Nevertheless, you are obviously trying to exhibit your 'WIDE RANGE'of vocabulary (which directly generates a lot of miscommunication by the usage of inappropriate words) together with the mound of excessive grammatical errors from far and wide.Please DO stop it and ONLY USE WORDS THAT YOU ARE SURE OF IT'S MEANING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.


and by the way, i do not have perfect english, which means you don't have to judge my language's benchmark. :)

lkf said...

There is no way I’m going to discuss this topic with a person who doesn’t even introduce him/her self. That’s the first lesson of politeness. Further more you need to reframe from using foul language. You may not be perfect in English but there is no excuse for using foul language. You just treaded on the new found peace. Why? And you may find the meaning of maturity in the dictionary. It was meant for the way of writing a comment maturely without causing discomfort in any other parties. Also please don’t jump to the conclusion that I’m a female or do you just like using the word for female dogs. You just proved my statements which I stressed earlier. Your way of writing a comment is totally uncalled for. Besides I did mention my English is not PERFECT (6X mentioned if I’m correct). Why are you judging me when you told others not too judge you? Don’t do on to others what you don’t want others to do onto you! We can all comment but do it professionally without succumbing to a lower class of dignity and morality. I belief you are one with the sense of dignity and morality or maybe not. Only you, whoever you are, can answer this question. If your answer is NO, well don’t you think it’s high time for you to make that answer YES?

I quote from whoever you are:-

“PEACEFULL? OH YEAH, full OF PEACE i suppose! Hey bitch! Who’s the one who started everything all over again when winnie decided to end it???!!”

I have a supporter who supports the statement that it’s now peaceful.

“yeah everything is peaceful here now..” p3 said so.

So that’s like after 7 comments including yours. And there isn’t a trace of any hostility in the comments except your own comment whoever you are. So are you going to stop or just continue? I leave that decision to you but do remember, your decision is going to decide whether the road goes from good to bad or bad to worse. YOUR DECISION. I’m not saying you can’t comment. Just do it without the foul language. Your cooperation is appreciated.

purplexity said...

"We can all comment but do it professionally without succumbing to a lower class of dignity and morality."

Lower class of dignity and morality or not, there isn't any setting point for that. NO one can determine whether it is, or it is not.

I thought p3 just being sarcastic with his or her saying everything is peaceful. Hmm.. nevermind. We shall know if p3 ever answers.

sean said...

oh lkf stop bitching around like ur some kinda GOD in this room. Oh and look~ miss goody2shoes doesn't want to use foul languages... oh that's just too bad~ cuz it just reflects that ur a nerd who doesn't know when to control his talking. dumbarse ... of cuz if we're talking in front of out parents we'll moderate ourselves... stop acting oh-so-innocent okay? man, what a bitch

sean said...

our*

Winnie C said...

I won't restrict anybody here, first of all. And by "foul language is just part of life today" I mean you can hear foul language everywhere now, I don't mean we should go around speaking in it. It is obvious that the comments have drifted from music to English language and now to foul language. Hey guys, please don't take all this too seriously ok? I didn't type this post to arouse all this kerfuffle. I sincerely apologise for all the damages done here.

debatEr, not, debatOr said...

LFK: "There is no way I’m going to discuss this topic with a person who doesn’t even introduce him/her self. That’s the first lesson of politeness."

INTRODUCE MYSELF? DID YOU even do that YOURSELF when you first ROLLED OUT OF HELL and landed here??? and STARTED CRITIZISING OTHER PEOPLE'S ENGLISH while CALLING EVERYONE WHO WAS COMMENTING LOSERS?

and please, BITCH, stop acting goody goody and for heaven's sake, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT POLITENESS????
hey people, LOOK WHO'S TALKING!!!! she clearly spots the speck in my eyes but not the LOG in hers! THREE CHEERS FOR LFK THE BITCH! yipeee!!!



LFK: "We can all comment but do it professionally without succumbing to a lower class of dignity and morality. I belief you are one with the sense of dignity and morality or maybe not."

AH, talking about dignity and morality again... oh pleaseee, miss "national state debatOr"!!! take a good look at the mirror before you proceed to giving another of your "goody goody advices" to any of us! or maybe, you need new glasses to see what's the problem with you!



sean: "oh lkf stop bitching around like ur some kinda GOD in this room. Oh and look~ miss goody2shoes doesn't want to use foul languages... oh that's just too bad~ cuz it just reflects that ur a nerd who doesn't know when to control his talking. dumbarse ... of cuz if we're talking in front of out parents we'll moderate ourselves... stop acting oh-so-innocent okay? man, what a bitch!!"

100% AGREE sean! way to go!YOU ROCK DUDE! =D



LFK: "I’m not saying you can’t comment. Just do it without the foul language. Your cooperation is appreciated."

*FAINTS!*
does ANYONE need ANY appreciation from a BITCH???!!! oh please DO TELL ME!

NaeS said...

Whoa. Such a ruckett! What a commotion! I would trade all my body fat if all of these comments would appear in my blog^^ Winnie u really got supporters! the amount of comments here are... stunning...
sean: whoever you are, you rock! you give all the seans a good rep. Respect!

self-promoting : http://thisisnotadietblog.blogspot.com/

lkf said...

YAWN!!!!
Looks like your parents didn't teach you about manners.
Oh please don’t envy people who choose to repent.
YOU ARE STILL AFRAID TO LAY DOWN YOUR CALLING CARD!
WHY?
TOO ASHAME TO LET PEOPLE KNOW YOUR NAME OR YOUR SEX?
I’m afraid you will not go far in society but that’s what I think.
Too bad for you too act in front of those you STATE TO LOVE (PARENTS)
Oh it will be sad for them to find out that they failed miserably in educating their child/heir. WHAT A DISGRACE TO THE FAMILY NAME!
Being good in your English skills DOESN’T mean you will be successful in LIFE.
It’s about the soft skills dude.
It’s how you carry yourself in a society and the respect you gain from them.
Even if your English is good, but you carry yourself poorly and damage your OWN REPUTATION (THAT’S WHY YOU WON’T INTRODUCE YOURSELF), what’s the POINT!
You’ll be hated and furthermore those you support would also be pulled down to your LEVEL which is equivalent to DIRT/ CRAP/ Nonsense.
And finally, I would like to let all the females in the world know that we have a woman hater, insensitive person, ill-mannered being who will most likely change when he gets older. Or not, if he/she wants to beg for food on the streets.
Ohhh and I just realized that your parents must not have educated you on manners as you seem to pull people who try to advice you on the uses of foul language. Or maybe they did and THAT’S WHY YOU HATE THEM TO THE POINT OF CALLING THEM A B*T*H! And because you don’t have the COURAGE TO TELL THAT TO THEIR FACE YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT TO THOSE ONLINE, which is very cowardly.
If you had the courage you’ll do well by acting your age or talk exactly as you type!
And “Loser” is not a foul language. It’s a term for sour losers LIKE you.
Hohoho for your knowledge those who don’t curse doesn’t necessarily mean they are nerds. And even if they are nerds what DO YOU HAVE AGAINST THEM?
Is it because they are the clever ones who sacrifice their childhood experiences for a better future? Or is a nerd in school of yours getting better grades than YOU or maybe they are the ones getting all the attention? Or maybe you just wanted attention.
Oh well. Pathetic! Just because I don’t curse you think I’m acting. What if I’m educated and had good guidelines from those who care for me. I pity you for not having any. Or maybe you did but choose to ignore them. AGAIN, GROW UP! (Judging from your typing I would say you are a teen in form 6). Or maybe your school doesn’t emphasize on manners! I apologize to Winnie for starting a whole new argument in her Blog but if you were in my shoes would you tolerate anyone who commented such hostility towards you?
I for one will stand up to you and I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO THREAD ON my dignity or my way of LIFE. Go get your own or leave others to their own life.
And SEAN, if somekinda GOD were the only person to have manners than we are all sinners are we not and that includes our parents and grandparents and everyone else on this earth.
You should not have pulled GOD into this SEAN. And those who agree with him 100% just do not know where they stand between manners and religion!

newcomer said...

hey everyone! newcomer here!

wow winnie! what a blog! man! havoc! havoc! lolz!

well, i've really got some comments to make here! i've read through the comments... oh man! there certainly are many assholes trying to promote their language power here! especially LFK! WHO THE HELL IS THAT?? who does he/she think he/she is??
reading it through the first time, i felt that LFK was the HAVOC-CREATER in the first place. Before tat, everything was goin' on well!

AND WOW! debatEr,not debatOr(dnd), i truly love you! hahaha YOU ROCK! MAN! i seriously laughed my head off when i read your comment! bwahahahaha!!! SERIOUSLY!

LOL.. A 'NATIONAL STATE DEBATER' who doesnt know how to spell debater! dnd, you are really observant! lol!!! haha..wonder if i know you in real life! blast THAT BITCH LFK BACK MORE! I'M WAITING!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

and a note to LFK! it is obvious that everyone who is against you does not welcome you on this site! so why the hell do you have to continue with your piece of shit??
acting goody goody and HOLY??
i honestly think that you are HOLEY. WITH AN E. FULL OF HOLES.

SO WHY DON'T CHA JUST FUCK OFF AND BURRY YOURSELF IN SOME HOLE???!!!! YOUR ASSHOLE WOULD DO WELL!!!! FUCK YOURSELF!

to NAES AND SEAN. great job too! this LFKseriously needs some lessons herself! peace-disturber!!!

LFK! even if you were a MALE, i'd still like you to know something. Do you realise that you sound like a LOSER WHINING BITCH?? seriously you are a bitch regardless of your gender.

and yeah dnd, NO ONE NEEDS APPRECIATION FROM A BITCH LIKE LFK! right everybody?
so why dont you just CURL UP SOMEWHERE AND DIE? nobody respects you here. and of course, nobody WANTS YOU HERE.

SO JUST SHUT THAT FUCKIN' BITCHY MOUTH OF YOURS AND FUCK OFF!! dont creaste havoc here please. GOD BLESS YOU, MY HOLY BITCH.

newcomer said...

*create

and oh, me oso DONT have PURRRRFECT english!

and me have no respect for ppl who claim themselves as "national state debatOrs" everywhere. So what if yyou are a debater, a debatOr, i mean (lol! DND! i am still laughing!! hahahaha!!!)
BITCHY LFK! SHOW OFF! BAH!

newcomer said...

read through all the comments for the second time. hey, it's LKF. NOT LFK, dnd.. i got influenced by your comment.. lol. LFK or LKF, she's still a bitch. haha.

sean said...

hey lkf! shut up will you? well.. ur name shoudn't be lkf... it shoud be tfk. If you dont know what it means...good for you! your a nerd since u are so proud of being one! congrats! loser? i bet half of the people here support me. so are they all losers? self-proclaim winner... lol

sean said...

by the way, my english may be poor so are more than half of the population in the world who are english illiterate. but at least i have ethics. get a social life. look into the mirror and you'll see an arrogant asshole who belittles people because his english is so "powderful". whoa im afraid! after all ur just another guy... a tiny speck in the world who nobody cares of.

p3 said...

Yawn. I'm yawning.

"Looks like your parents didn't teach you about manners."

WHO are you to judge that? And what's with all those moral lessons about parent.. love.. family name.. successful in life.. reputation.. beg for food... and all those freaking shit? Don't spin around with some bullshit stories, trailing on and on and on but no one cares.

"You’ll be hated and furthermore those you support would also be pulled down to your LEVEL which is equivalent to DIRT/ CRAP/ Nonsense."

OBVIOUSLY, YOU ARE THE ONE HATED BY ALMOST EVERYONE HERE.

"And finally, I would like to let all the females in the world know that we have a woman hater,"

Well this is certainly NOT the place to do so. Don't you act noble.

"Pathetic!"

You mean YOURSELF.

"(Judging from your typing I would say you are a teen in form 6)."

JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS. Is that what they teach the NATIONAL STATE debatOrs? Let alone form 6, any standard 6 kid can do better in you.

"Or maybe your school doesn’t emphasize on manners!"

Your school deserves to be in the 'Malaysia's Next Most Politeness-Emphasizing School".

"I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO THREAD ON my dignity or my way of LIFE. "

You mean TREAD? I think I should become a debater too. To improve my spelling skills, that is.

"if somekinda GOD were the only person to have manners THAN ( you mean, thEn?) WE ARE SINNERS ARE WE NOT and that includes our parents and grandparents and everyone else on this earth."

You are implying that it's a norm that human beings are NOT sinners. I know it's hard to accept the fact that you sin. Especially HERE.

sean said...

well said p3, well said

debatEr, not debatOr! said...

dear p3, tons of thanks for standing up for me! you replied even before i did! *grins*:)

and to newcomer, i'm really wondering who you are. thanks for supporting. I sincerely appreciate it! :) You sound a lot like my sister's age. Are you around form 1 or form 2? and you're cute too! haha :)
and yeah, thanks for pointing out that it's actually LKF, not LFK. I didnt bother to check the name properly because like you, i was enraged by LKF/LFK's comment even when i read it for the first time.



sean : "hey lkf! shut up will you? well.. ur name shoudn't be lkf... it shoud be tfk. If you dont know what it means...good for you! your a nerd since u are so proud of being one! congrats! loser? i bet half of the people here support me. so are they all losers? self-proclaim winner... lol"

lol, i guess we are all losers in LKF'S eyes. But well, who is she in the eyes of the society? bitch?? hypocrite??? *chuckles!*


ah! where is LKF now? disappeared? vanished into thin air? or has she curled up and died somewhere like what newcomer suggested to her? hahaha! i love you too newcomer! :P

purplexity said...

I'm not against anyone. Look, amidst the commotion, this has been ignored.

Anonymous wrote this to winnie in the first comment :

"yr comment on chinese entertainment is NOT APPRECIATED."

I think this blog belongs to WINNIE. Why does anyone need to say whether HER, the blog owner's words are appreciated or not? It's absurd. TOTALLY ABSURD.

And yes I have to agree with p3 that, it's CLEAR ENOUGH Anonynous WAS showing his or her dictionary around. Look at this again : "or issit my OXFORD ADVANCED LEARNER DICTIONARY is a pirated version".

Winnie talked about music. And that person brings up the dictionary matter. Music=Dictionary?
And it's Oxford Advanced LEARNER'S Dictionary. Having it, showing it off but mispelling the name.

p3 said...

I NEED THE REST TO VERIFY THESE :

WAS LKF THE ONE WHO COMMENTED WITH LOTSA CRAPPY STUFF IN BETWEEN?

I was right when I stated that those who comment can be restricted. And lkf went around saying I might be an IT noob and then talked about porn, pirated CDs and DVDs, living under a rock and crap like that. And then offering some private English lessons? Asking for students who have characteristics here in Winnie’s blog?

And again in another comment, about the soft skills in life... parenting skills... childhood experience... better grades... attention.. ? what are those? Moral lessons? *goodnessInearlyfainted*

Despite being a so-called National State Debater, lkf spelled ‘foul’ as ‘FAUL’. twice. How laughable. And another more obvious one has been laughed, the debator-debater.
And LOTS of others as well. All mistakes. All crap. And lkf even boasted about giving tuitions.

Yes lkf is not perfect (OBVIOUSLY. *ROLLSEYES*)

But THOSE mistakes?!!! BY A DEBATER??!!! Certainly ‘CAN’ be forgiven……

”jeez. I think i typed this 5x already.”.. and “(6X mentioned if I’m correct).”

NO ONE NEEDS MATH LESSON HERE. NO ONE CARES. WE WERE NEVER BOTHERED TO COUNT. DON’T NOTIFY US.

debatEr, not debatOr said...

P3:

NEED THE REST TO VERIFY THESE :

WAS LKF THE ONE WHO COMMENTED WITH LOTSA CRAPPY STUFF IN BETWEEN?


answer: YES.

LFK'S FIRST COMMENT WAS ALREADY OUT OF THE TOPIC, LEADING THE OTHER COMMENTERS TO CONFUSION, AND THUS, STIRRING COMMOTION.

(LFK : "wahahahhahha what losers....fighting over the usage of english when all of you including P3 especially has grammatic errors.....no body speaks perfect english or very few in fact....those who can do not even bother to talk because talkin to ppl like you is a waste of time(everybody who wrote here) i myself, do not use perfect english and thus do not have the right to tell any of you off...but i can tell u that you use imperfect english! SO STOP FIGHTING OVER THIS TOPIC and GET A LIFE you losers....and anoymous pls read up on your grammar and retake ur english paper exam...its a disgrace for someone like you to tell other ppl off when you are imperfect ur self... toodels")

MORE PROOF PEOPLE? READ THE COMMENTS ALL OVER AGAIN.

Anonymous said...

muahaha, just posted a few comments to critise winnie's opinion, add abit of spices (dictionary, comments not appreciated, racist),here we go,a long train of comments, or rather an arguments, and then to personal battle.yeap,im using broken english here.So wat? this is not an english writing competition,i dont need to use proper english. y p3 hafta make yrself so tensed up?u scolded me as loser.ya,im here to cause commotions,i would love to see if such things happen. Who knows afer a few days off from internet, here we go.everyone gets so angry.haha.i just love it.u may scold me of having no life.ya, i have no life. i dedicate my time to cause problems in blog. i may be a loser, but u guys are too because watever i said have no effects on you guys, so y go waste time and shoot and curse me back? to naes,u wanna trade body fat for all these comments?no need. u can invite me to yr blog, and i can do the same too.whenever u need it, dont hesitate to invite me. just a few arrogant comments can cause such ruckus.muahahaha.

Anonymous said...

and, anyone wants me to show off oxford advance learner dictionary in their blog? do not hesitate to find me.muahaha.ya, my dictionary got spelling error. because it is a pirated version.

there u have it, to p3, or anyone, if u have spare times,can continue to attack me, or you consider your action as attack? i do not know. yourr english is better than me. if do not understand what i said, hahaha, too bad.

Anonymous said...

and, anyone wants me to show off oxford advance learner dictionary in their blog? do not hesitate to find me.muahaha.ya, my dictionary got spelling error. because it is a pirated version.

there u have it, to p3, or anyone, if u have spare times,can continue to attack me, or you consider your action as attack? i do not know. yourr english is better than me. if do not understand what i said, hahaha, too bad.

(double post)

debatEr, not debatOr! said...

hahahaha! after reading P3's last comment, I read through all the comments again! and I certainly gave special attention to LKF'S!


P3 : "I was right when I stated that those who comment can be restricted. And lkf went around saying I might be an IT noob and then talked about porn, pirated CDs and DVDs, living under a rock and crap like that. And then offering some private English lessons? Asking for students who have characteristics here in Winnie’s blog?"

APPARENTLY, YOU WERE RIGHT:) Only certain people who regard themselves as 'IT afficionados' think tat they are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT without even bothering to check out the rights of a blog administrator.
At times, i just wonder how far LKF can get. Why does she HAVE to beat around the bush, trying to prove that her BULLSHIT FILLED COMMENTS are correct, when they are totally nothing, but CRAP????

Yes, I clearly know those are just her opinions, and this is a blog. But hey, jumping to conclusions and arrousing commotions here? Is that RIGHT? Please do tell me whether this is suppose to happen or not.


Haiz... LFK oh LFK!! youre seriously A big joke. BIG JOKE. Bragging about yourself and your status as a national sate debatOr. Try doing something more worthwhile than MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF yeah :)



LKF : "Oh please don’t envy people who choose to repent."

LAUGH OUT LOUD! IF YOU HAD EVER CHOSE TO REPENT, YOUR LAST COMMENT WOULD NOT HAVE APPEARED.



LKF: "YOU ARE STILL AFRAID TO LAY DOWN YOUR CALLING CARD!
WHY?
TOO ASHAME TO LET PEOPLE KNOW YOUR NAME OR YOUR SEX?"

doesn't that apply to YOU LKF?



LKF: "Even if your English is good, but you carry yourself poorly and damage your OWN REPUTATION (THAT’S WHY YOU WON’T INTRODUCE YOURSELF), what’s the POINT!"

ERH...who's the one who boasts about being a "national state debatOr" and gladly flaunts her 'WIDE RANGE' of vocab? (together with the LOUSY FAT LUMP of grammatical and SPELLING ERRORS!)??? i wonder!!



LKF: "AGAIN, GROW UP! (Judging from your typing I would say you are a teen in form 6).

GROW UP? WHO? ME OR YOU?? aren't you the one who posts childish comments and calls others LOSERS?
I THINK YOU ARE THE LOSER. KIDDO.



and as what P3 has pointed out, I AM PLEASED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I WILL NOT 'THREAD' ON YOUR DIGNITY OR WHATSOEVER :)
Honestly, i still can't figure out what " WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO THREAD ON my dignity or my way of LIFE. " means.

Whatever excuses you may make, like typing in the dark, i fully agree with P3 that when you, a blowhard, BLOWS YOUR OWN TRUMPET about how far you are above all of us by swaggering about your highty mighty status as a 'national state debatOr', you shouldnt be making RIDICULOUS SPELLING MISTAKES!

IT'S HILARIOUS!!! hahaha!!!
*rolls on the ground!*


and oh puh-leeezzzz!!!! please.. dont ever try giving TUITION!

Angle of Death said...

hey p3.... stop with your english grammar perfectionist thing... WTF... oohohohoh... u dont understand short term arent you... WHAT THE FUCK? so what if you are good in grammar? does that makes u a better man? does that makes u a more succesful person? but im sure it makes u an annoying fucking bastard... you have no future, heaven wasn't made for u... you shall burn yourself to hell, as hard as it may be. Get a life yo. tell you what, let me know when's your birthday. and i'll get a mirror for you to c urself in it. And im sure it gonna break into pieces. then cut yourself. cut your wrist and tell us that death is on sale today.

music lover said...

There are a lot of songs out there which promotes war,peace-disturbance. you havent heard of such songs doesnt mean it does not exist.and wat a blog winnie, im the 79th commenter in here.wow!

debatEr, not debatOr said...

angLE of death? hahahaha! do you need a specific angle to DIE?? oh, u mean like 30 degrees? or maybe 45 degrees? i hope it applies to YOU, angle of death, when the day comes for you to slit that miserable wrist of yours!
and are you sort of WORRIED over the fact that P3 posseses good english?.

by the way, it's obvious that he/she not showing off his english by flaunting some bombastic vocab like some others.

it's pretty clear.

anyone can tell the diferrence between natural and 'dictionarized'.


angLE of death : "you have no future, heaven wasn't made for u... you shall burn yourself to hell, as hard as it may be"

does the YOU in that passage refers to P3? hey! WAKE UP! YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF!!!

sean said...

angle of death could be anonymous... so let's just pretend we didn't see it and just call it a day. the commotion ends here... now that lkf a.k.a. self-proclaimed winner is gone for good

sean- said...

he's just another kid who has no life... dont bother talking to him coz ur just wasting time

debatEr, not debatOr! said...

You are right sean. We should all just pretend that the stupid "angle" is invisible.

and yeah... i think LFK DID CURL UP SOMEWHERE AND IS DEAD NOW! hahahaha!

p3 said...

Anonymous, you think TOO highly of yourself. I wasn't even trying to attack anyone. You don't worth a shit. tensed up? I think you really are. I mean, who else knows what other dictionaries you have beside you and how many pages you've flipped just to make a comment? And still getting the words wrong? Don't get so carried away.

And get your eyes OPENED WIDE. In your comment, you mentioned ME alone. From the start, I haven't even referred ANYONE as loser. I didn't say anyone has no life. Please get things clear. CAN'T YOU READ PROPERLY? there are like.. 80 comments here. If you can't afford to read all to get some FACTS, then don't comment!

DON'T SPEAK IF YOU DON'T HAVE SUBSTANCE.


angle of death wrote this :
"hey p3.... stop with your english grammar perfectionist thing"

Why? If my grammar is perfect then why must a make it not? You're intimidated? Don't.

"so what if you are good in grammar? does that makes u a better man? does that makes u a more succesful person? "

Why must you, just like lkf, spin around preaching life lessons? Are you the same person? Did I ever imply that those with good grammars are destined to be successful in life? A better man? Perhaps you are right. I AM a better man. I get things clearer.

Yeah. I agree with Sean. ignore him/her. peace...

Anonymous said...

i dont know. but yr comments tell me that you are tensed up. by the way, loser, why are you still here? you have nothing better to do in your life?yes, im referring to you p3, you alone. if i dont worth a shit, why do you have to response to my comments? yes, i think VERY HIGHLY of myself. thank you for reminding me.and what an interesting assumption that the angel of death is me.haha.LOL. me as kiddo? everyone here is kiddo.

Anonymous said...

and p3, how come you are still here? you have no life is it? too much free time so come here and entertain me? i have nothing to lose.

one more thing,p3 you said i am arrogant. you too are arrogant. your comments tell me so. and pulezz deny it. because a criminal won't admit that he's wrong.you have an ego size of the sun, so u won't just keep quiet here. p3, go back and wank yourself.

sean, u want to ignore me?what about hundred of comments in your blog. you dont have to trade your fat, just your big brain will do. (because i have brain size of an ant).

Anonymous said...

"What ticks me off and what I want to express is, for God's sake, DON'T YOU EVER TRY TO FLAUNT YOUR DAMN BASTARD ENGLISH HERE. It's clearly not up to the average level. Or even Winnie's."

p3, you are not tensed up? mind explaining what does this mean???

Anonymous said...

oi, p3, can understand what i said? if cannot go wank yourself few more times.because you are not loser enough to understand.

p3 said...

'ticked off' and 'tensed up' has differences. I won't explain to retards. Especially you.

Anonymous has been dodging the SOLID FACT that he/she's trying to show off the english.

IF THE READERS HAVE READ MY POINTS ABOUT LKF AND ANOMNYMOUS PROPERLY, THE POINTS ARE ALL TRUE.

THESE WEAKLINGS ONLY FOCUSES ON OTHER CRAP, TRYING TO STEER ALL THE READERS AWAY FROM THE FLAWS I'VE DISCOVERED IN THEIR EVERY COMMENT.

Winnie wants this to end. I respect that. So this shall probably be the end.

Anonymous said...

naes: Whoa. Such a ruckett! What a commotion! I would trade all my body fat if all of these comments would appear in my blog^^ Winnie u really got supporters! the amount of comments here are... stunning...
sean: whoever you are, you rock! you give all the seans a good rep. Respect!

self-promoting : http://thisisnotadietblog.blogspot.com/


haha, you make me laugh naes,or sean saw? self-appraisal?go expose yourself like a fool.
LOSER!!!!

debatEr, not debatOr! said...

ANONYMOUS or whoever the hell yuo are:

nobody cares whether your OXFORD'S ADVANCES LEARNER(you mean learner's) DICTIONARY is an original copy or a cheap roadside pirated version.
You don't need to swagger about it over and over again.

And there is one thing that is clear.

YOU, and LKF are both bastards and bitches. Both at the same time. So what if p3 has good english? are you JEALOUS or what???

and when you own an OXFORD'S ADVANCED LEARNER'S DICTIONARY, i suppose you should understand what p3 said: "Winnie wants this to end. I respect that. So this shall probably be the end."
so why the hell create more problems, LOSER?

btw, naes and sean are two different people in case you didnt know. thats all. and i don't need any replies form you.

NO ONE DOES. YOU'RE NOT WELCOMED HERE.


-peace everyone-

angle of death said...

angle of death... theres no wrong with it.. ANGLe... not angel... im not afraid to die. some of us are really born to die. you cant really pretend im invisible. im everywhere. till death upon you. death is part of life itself. and i will bring you whatsoever "debater, not debator" with me. but i shall put you in hell. hell is the right place for you. i'll ask my fallen angel to slit your throat and leave you to bleed forever. and when you die, i'll give you life again. then i'll slit it again and again and again. if god is alive, he would have agree with me too. however im not a slave to a god that dont exist and im not a slave to a world that dont give a shit. however, you guys, especially you p3 and "debater, not debator", you are my slave forever. you are forever mine. you both are really born to die. death is policeman, death is a priest, death is stereo, death is tv, death is angel, death is god and now death is p3 and debater not debator.

lkf (i'll be back...after a week) said...

YAWN
you must really think this is the only BLOG i visit daily. I don't have that much free time on my hands and neither do i wish to die so don't hope.
I'll return in a week or so after i settle another battle in another BLOG which is much more ill mannered and more hostile than the commenters here.
And also i would like to state i have not read anything commented here after my last post so i shall not be commenting on any of your ill replies. Ohh but i did come across this and i quote

"i suppose you should understand what p3 said: "Winnie wants this to end. I respect that. So this shall probably be the end."
so why the hell create more problems, LOSER?"
(CAUTION no correction made.. Its all original)

Well you clearlly do not understand how to gain peace. Peace is not gain entirelly with your hostility. If a person were to create more problems you should tell them to stop in the POLITE manner. Your hostile actions will only agitate them and i finally see another who has done the same to "debater, not debator" and p3. May i ask you a private question now? How do you like it? well if you like it then keep up your hostility. PLUS i would like to remind "debater, not debator" that you were the ONE who agitated me and most likelly push "angel of death" to type even more hostile.

Ohhh and p3 i just had to tell you....
“Pot calling the kettle black.”

"Well it certainly doesn't reflect ME. I always make sure I get facts right to avoid making unfounded remarks. "
WHAT A STATEMENT after a great apology!!
"don't simply use different names. stick to the first one you've used before. As a result of lkf's action, i apologise for my mistake in accusing Anonymous in my previous comment alone. "
that just proves you don't read everything. It doesn't hurt to take a second and read to GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. hahahah

Lastlly i did not judge but i did warn you your actions REFLECT on others unless you disagree, and i like to base my facts on prove unless you just like to crap around.Ask any adult/parent and you will see for your self if they side with me or YOU their own little baby! In fact. Pls don't. You might get a spanking and you have clearlly out grown that age or MAYBE you havent!

well "Ignorance is bliss"

and maybe you haven't notice but We were discussing (you in a rude manner as always) the restriction capabilities in this blog! and i based my point on examples.

And finally to newcomer, i'll get back to you in a week. Private matters. Nothing to do about this blog but matters in reality.

Hahaha i'm a havoc-creater??
Well ask again, this time someone of mature age. Because you can't be matured. And in reality (I do mean the real life) you will be the one to blame for your wide range of BAD manners!

Anonymous said...

debator, not debater,i create problems for no reason.happy? i told you ardy i might be a loser, im playing loser game here, if you are not a loser, then why are you still here?

Anonymous said...

i have said anyone here join in here is a loser, because this whole thing is started by a loser, tat's me. you all keep on scolding me loser, but still want to come in and leave something. losers! p3, you are so smart, i wonder if i can fuck you and create many smart babies to lead our country. only if you are a girl. if you are a guy, then im sorry i take back my words. i dont want my stick to be made dirty with the remaining shit left in your asshole.

Anonymous said...

"LFK'S FIRST COMMENT WAS ALREADY OUT OF THE TOPIC, LEADING THE OTHER COMMENTERS TO CONFUSION, AND THUS, STIRRING COMMOTION."

HEIIIIIIIIII
YOU DIMWITTISSS
imbecilsss
asshholesss

I don know why you all say LFK/LKF is the wan who start all this...
He dida not start the confusion..
IT WAS MEEEEEEEE
HEIIIII ITWS MEEEE
YOU STUPID BASTARDS,BITCH,WANKERS,
me make so hard the commotion from music to language and a all you stupid assholes say LKF/LFK....
DAMN YOU LKF/LFK for stealing my CREDITA
PLS DON SUPPORT ME NO MORE YOU #%#$%#$
AND WHAT MORE AHHH
GOT DUMB ARSESSS WHO EVEN SUPPORT DUMB ARSEESSSS
ESPECIALLY AFTER I,,,,, YES ME, I, MADE THE EFFORT TO FIND THIS $%#$%^$ BLOG AND START!!!!!

AFTYER THIS A STATEMENT AHH YOU STILL SAY LKF/LFK AHHH YOU ALL CAN GO BOIL YOUR BRAINS FER SOUP.
COS THATS WHAT ITS BEST USED FOR
RETARDS
Donkey
clown
shyt heads
LOSERSSSSS
4-EYES
2-eyes
incapable humano
ego the size of animals
dick the size of a pencover.
GO AND DIE LAH
GIVE CREDIT TO LFK/LKF
ALL YOU SUPPORTERS OF LKF/LFK CAN JUST GO AND JUMP
AFTER ALL YOU ASSHOLES FIGHT AGAINST HIM YOU GO AND SUPPORT HIM
IDIOT.
SO HAI
TFK TILL YOU DRY UP LAH IF YOU CAN
DO YOU KNOW THIS IS A CHICKS BLOG...???
I WONDER IF SHE WANNA FUCK OR HANG OUT WITH YOU ALL ANYMORE YOU SICKOS

LKF pls give me back all MY CREDIT!!!!

LKF said...

If you want it you can have it
Plus i agree that you are the one who started this with your grammar.
But i have to say i started the morality and manners which they are still incapable comprehending.

NaeS said...

why drag me into this commotion? i didnt do anything... lol... welcome to visit my blog anyway... i wont fight with you cuz it'll just make me another loser

debatEr, not debatOr! said...

ATTENTION. Please call TANJUNG RAMBUTAN. There is a crazy sex maniac by the name of Anonymous who thinks tat he's the world's greatest havoc creater. Please do inform the authorities as soon as possible.

Anonymous said...
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Winnie C said...

Anonymous, please have respect for me even if you don't care about yours. I would appreciate it if no one posts any comments here anymore. Thank you.

passer by said...

the end!

Angle of Death said...

hey p3 and debater, not debator... hows the day becoming my slaves? i'll let u die and starve like animals...

p3 said...

The one before me is and idiot.

j e f w a y n e said...

oh my gosh winnie. this is like so wtf. i am laughing my arse off so hardly right now. it's so clear that all those debating here were ignorant people. they had zero respect for you as well. why? they claimed that they should stop and respect you and bla bla, but it's obvious that they did not. they just went on and on, dragging the arguments until there's no tomorrow. sorry i arrived late. should've been here earlier. XD

Winnie Chong said...

Haha yeah, I felt like a third person in this discussion anyways. Yeah you arrived a year late I guess. Haha

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